Study corroborates local researcher's findings on Gulf War illness

12/16/08 Robert Lorei
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Welcome to WMNF’s Radioactivity program. I’m Rob Lorei. Coming up today: the government has issued a report saying that Gulf War illness is real. We’ll talk with a local man who identified the cause years ago - but got no credit - until now.

An extensive federal report released in last month concludes that roughly one in four of the 697,000 U.S. veterans of the 1990-91 Gulf War suffer from Gulf War illness.

GWI is a condition now identified as the likely consequence of exposure to toxic chemicals, including pesticides and a drug administered by the military to protect troops against nerve gas. The 452-page report states that "scientific evidence leaves no question that Gulf War illness is a real condition with real causes and serious consequences for affected veterans."

The report, compiled by a panel of scientific experts and veterans serving on the congressionally mandated Research Advisory Committee on Gulf War Veterans' Illnesses, fails to identify any cure. It also notes that few veterans afflicted with GWI have recovered.

Our guest on the first part of the program is former medical researcher Tom Tiedt who lives in Sarasota. When Gulf War illness was starting to show up among veterans in the early 1990’s, Tiedt testified to Congress and told any reporters who would listen that Gulf War syndrome was caused by a drug that hundreds of thousands of soldiers were forced to take. The drug was part of a massive experiment to try to reduce the effects of potential nerve gas attacks. What’s more, Tiedt says, the Department of Defense was criminally inept - because there were already studies showing that healthy people would be seriously harmed if they took the drug.

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I testified before the US Senate VA committee about pyridostigmine bromide (same drug) on May 3, 1994. When did Tom Tiedt do it? Look here, its no joke: Another local researcher, James Iredell Moss Gainesville Florida

New gulf war Committee

This Committee is asking for written comments from Veterans. This Committee is allowing Vets to speak before them, during Public Coment Sessions.This Committee is allowing Vets to Teleconferece - hearing sessions by telephone. Silence is not an Option ! VA - Advisory Committee on Gulf War Veterans Department of Veterans Affairs Office of Policy and Planning (008A1) 810 Vermont Ave, Washington, DC 20420 202-461-5758 Lelia P. Jackson, Policy Analyst , Many like myself suffer invisible disablites chronic pain, muscle weakness ,GI problems, brain fog, see

Indeed, Dr. Moss found, in 1993 after the Gulf War, that combined administration of PB and DEET in cockroaches is more lethal than either agent alone. These findings were published in 1996-1997. A group at Duke University published in 1996 that chronic oral dosing of PB/DEET/permethrin cause neurotoxicity in chickens (however, DEET and permethrin are not taken orally, they are for topical use). In 1997, Dr. Moss published that caffeine and adrenalin increase PB toxicity in mice. Dr, Moss noted in 2001 that when PB and DEET are taken in conditions different than those used in nerve gas protection studies (which showed serious harm from PB, an outcome expected/established long before the Gulf War began), then PB/DEET may produce an unexpected outcome. I agree, and thus encouraged Senator Rockefeller in 1994 to receive Dr. Moss’s preliminary findings even though soldiers were not exposed to DEET/permethrin as evaluated by Dr. Moss or the Duke researchers (of course, perhaps some did drink DEET/permethrin but I have never seen any indication of this route of administration; I am not aware that the DEET/permethrin/caffeine/adrenalin synergism mechanism has been resolved). Dr. Moss has stated that he believes that the reason his temporary research appointment with USDA that expired 6/31/94 was not renewed was related to his PB study at USDA and his Congressional testimony in May 1994; apparently, USDA is the co-inventor of DEET. I focused on the expected outcome of PB administration in Gulf War soldiers based on widely published research using various mammal species, including humans, showing that PB and virtually all other acetylcholinesterase inhibitors (eg, PB, nerve gasses, pesticides) produce profound acute and long-term nerve, muscle, central nervous system and autonomic nervous system toxicity based on substantial research published many years before the Gulf War began by myself and my colleagues at the University of Maryland and in various DOD research labs. Note: although DOD and FDA applaud PB’s use in myasthenia gravis patients, this disease makes these patients far less susceptible to the PB toxicity established before and during the Gulf War in normal healthy young soldiers under stress. Clearly, DOD’s forced use of PB was an illicit dangerous experiment on our troops and a violation of the Nuremburg Code, Declaration of Helsinki, US clinical research regulations and DOD’s assurances to FDA. As I said, if we regular people did such a thing, we would be indicted for crimes and subject to imprisonment. I wonder if the environmental health group at USF will now finally realize that pesticides can be toxic to humans and stop testifying for cash that pesticides are safe for human exposure. However, I doubt it. Cash weighs more than ethics.

Gulf War Syndrome & Leukemia

My husband served in the Gulf War. A few months ago he was diagnosed with Lymphoma/ Leukemia. When we asked the Oncologist how a realitively healthy 40 year old male gets leukemia, he told us that chemical exposure was a high factor. My husband was in the middle of those chemical fires trying to put them out. Is there any connection? I can't help but think that in addition to his diminished lung capacity and severe headaches that he now has Leukemia because of the Gulf War. Have you heard of other cases like this regarding Lymphoma Cancer or Leukemia? I look forward to your reply. Michelle Hill

Michelle. Sorry to hear about your husband's leukemia. The Institute of Medicine published a report about Gulf War illnesses a few years back and noted that benzene causes leukemia in adults. This report was ultra conservative, so any linking of any agent to any illness relevant to the Gulf War health debacle is remarkable. Solvent or oil plant fires may have been associated with benzene exposures. However, I have no information about such potential exposures. But, this does not mean that there were none...I simply do not know.